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If I had a nickel for every time I heard one of these excuses...

I would be rich enough to buy deviantART and hire new admins. =P

Please read the companion article.

Are you against tracing? Join the club!
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:iconthebrushfox:
TheBrushFox Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2016  Student General Artist
I completely agree with this stamp !

Tracing is theft and is NOT a good way to learn how to draw. When I was like 14 or something I used to trace lots of pictures from books or mangas to help me larning the basics of art and when I tried to draw on my own again, I hadn't improved one single bit. It was still my shitty 12 years old art style and skill.

If any new artists see this stamp and read this pointless comment, I'd like to share a different way of learning and improving. Try to watch some speedpaints of your favourite artist and try to find some technique that you can try in your own style. If it doesn't work very well once you know how to use it then try something else until you find your own perfect way of drawing. Analyse some works of your favourites artists. Ask yourself the question of "how did they manage to convey such emotion into the drawing ?", "how did they shade ? Etc.... and try it yourself WITH YOUR OWN ARTSTYLE !

I'm not sure this will work for everyone but trust me it's worth a shot. Using this way of learning, I've improved more in one year than in my entire lifetime.
Even if your first drawing is bad, it'll still be better than a traced picture. Nothing justifies tracing. Nothing besides laziness.
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Ennoine Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree so much :/
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squirrelyjoel Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You wouldn't steal a car you wouldn't steal a womens purse TRACING IS STEALING!!!!!!
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EarthUnderMartians Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Don't be against tracing... It's how the Mona Lisa, and most of Andy Warhol's art was done.
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tenchibaka Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2016
no it is not. andy worhol manipulated photos and the mona lisa was a hand-drawn painting of a woman that was heavily revised over several years


do you actually know what tracing is? it is when an image or photo is traced over from a source image or photo. neither of those examples are tracing
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EarthUnderMartians Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Actually, Andy Warhol took a photo of a soup can, put it through a projector, projected it onto the canvas and then traced over the image. I'm honestly not sure of how Da Vinci is, but the projector thing is one theory. 
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tenchibaka Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2016
are you referring to his silkscreening? that was a replication of the already existing can series and was done AFTER he had gotten approval from campbells

davinci painted. he was a painter. he wrote on the camera as it related to the eye in the 1400s but did not use it to create any images. he hand drew all of his works
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EarthUnderMartians Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
No, I'm referring to his soup cans, the ones where he took a photo and traced them.
ca.phaidon.com/agenda/art/arti…
And Leonardo Da Vinci, according to a relatively new theory, traced the projected face of a woman onto the canvas for the Mona Lisa. It's still hand drawn, but so is the majority of traced art.
thevirtualinstructor.com/blog/…
www.dogsonacid.com/threads/did…
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tenchibaka Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2016
that article is quite bastardized >x>;;;; the timing is off, the way that he created the work is incorrect and the only traced photos he did of the tomato cans came long after the works shown in that image. those were created by silkscreens and stencils, here is the image he copied for that installment; upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…


your theory is unfounded and lacks any actual evidence. claiming that a large cultural shift in perceived beauty and socially desired works can be chalked down to several hundreds of thousands of people getting hold of a device that would be very costly and difficult to make and taking up tracing en mass but not having any written documentation of the use of this device or having physical evidence of the device in whole or part in said works or locations is ridiculous, it also discounts on face the world trends of the time both before, during and after the art renaissance as well as centuries of clear physical evidence showing the movement away from strongly stylized art to strongly realistic art

this is nonsensical and you have done nothing other than prove that you know nothing about the history of art or math or cameras
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EarthUnderMartians Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If they were traced from that pencil drawing, what's the difference? Even if he did the pencil drawing, he still then traced the next few.
And the theory isn't unfounded, it's possible, many artists have done it, and it was common at the time. Who's to say Da Vinci didn't do it? It doesn't discount his work, if anything it makes him even more credible as an innovator, with the patience to set all of that shit up and meticulously paint the things he projected.
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Autumnique Featured By Owner May 1, 2016
This was submitted in my birthday!
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Ink-Whiskers Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Tracing is NOT a useful way to develop as an artist!
It takes practically NO skill to trace lines, and the 'skill' of tracing lines does not translate to drawing on your own. It is okay, however to trace photos in order to simplify the shapes/outline and reference off that however.
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StellarProductions Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Tracing is actually a very good way to help a beginning artist develop their down style. It's how I started way back in middle school and it's actually suggested in a variety of artistic guide books (of the comics and cartoon breed) to trace until you are able to draw comfortably on your own.

Of course, anyone who traces and then uploads to their gallery should link to the original artwork and give full credit to the original artist. And if the artist of the original work tells them to take it down? Well then they should respect the original artist and do so. *shrug*
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EarthUnderMartians Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Tracing's also used in some of the most amazing art ever made.
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Supercoco142 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know someone who traces. 

the worst part is that someone thinks she actually drew it
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TheHighHills Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry but no. I disagree, and I advise beginner artists to ignore your stamps. It's fine to trace photographs as long as you don't post it and claim it fully as yours. Tracing is good for learning.
Yes, you CAN get in trouble for uploading it (if you didn't get permission to use the original photo), but honestly, if someone is just learning, who gives a damn if they trace? I have good drawing skills, but I trace humans sometimes because I find the anatomy a bit difficult at times, and I'm still kind of learning it.

Besides, say if you buy a reference photo from someone, you can do whatever you want with it. Including trace. So your argument of "tracing is art theft" is not entirely valid.
Also it's not up to you to tell artists what they can and cannot do. A lot of professional artists trace, believe it or not. You're ignorant of the benefits of tracing, and thus you've formed an opinion based on zero experience.
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JaneZaneColeNicole Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Im confused now. No one's reportee my art, but its still considered stealing...
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tenchibaka Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2015
if you dont have permission to use the image from the image creator it is inappropriate and ILLEGAL to trace the image. i am pretty damn sure they are talking about stealing images and tracing them not getting a hold of legal stock and using them to make your own work(if they include legally acceptable tracing too then it's not really theft unless you fail to credit)


i will say this though, those 'professionals' are shit-mongers and just because they get away with stealing does not make it right or acceptable
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EarthUnderMartians Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Warhol had no license from Campbells...
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tenchibaka Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2016
what he did was classified as appropriation NOT tracing. he modified a photograph in a manner that changed the context of the mage and removed it from it's original intention. he did not replicate it with the intent of using as-is

this is like kasey bowman who simply traced an image and claimed it was her own. she was publicly disgraced, banned from scholastic programs and lost all her awards and accolades
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tenchibaka Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2015
it's still stealing, please dont let this guy convince you theft is ok
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:iconthehighhills:
TheHighHills Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
If you do it for your own practice and don't post it anywhere, how exactly is that going to get you in trouble? Explain that, please.
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tenchibaka Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2015
i am not talking about trouble, i am talking about stealing. it is still stealing. you suffering negative repercussions is all on you but the actual act does not change regardless of whether or not you are caught
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TheHighHills Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes it's fine :) It's for your own use, so I highly doubt anyone will legally attack you for it.
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Birch-Tiara Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If only this person would see this:
deadlyart4all.deviantart.com/
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Lightning-Dragon02 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2015
I say it's fine unless the user posts it. If you're using it to develop style, then keep it to yourself. :P
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Blaze-5 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015  Student
I saw a drawing that traced part of my fan art..my drawing wasn't the best but I worked hard on it. Not that I mad but you know..^^;

And yes those are bad excuses :no:
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Jonou Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
im sorry for using references and sometimes tracing.
but i can draw without them too. im just really bad at poses and bases.
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Ink-Whiskers Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Noooo references are good! Referencing photos is the best way to improve at anatomy! Multiple references are even better! Use refereneces! :D
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2Pengu4U Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I know a lot of great artists that learned everything they knew from tracing :v....
And now they draw their own art and just under 2 years since I've been watching them, their own art improved a lot faster than most people I see. 
But--I'm referring to specific fandom for an anime show, and there's only a small handful of people I am referring to, the rest of them just trace for fun, to get popular, blah, blah, blah.....
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mackattack1991 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
What's the consensus on tracing photographs?
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pamez748 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I used to trace, but then I tried drawing for real. I've improved a bit of dA, but haven't posted any new work recently. My camerea is a jerk.
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Yaoiwriter25 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
If you want to work on your OC's so much you should do your own work end of story, heck i am a pretty crappy drawer but I am proud of it cause I do my own work and didn't have to hide behind tracing.
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Keileon Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I support tracing if the person is *genuinely* using it to figure out how stuff like anatomy works. I've done it before, when I was much younger and just starting to seriously draw. I never claimed it as my own- I rarely even showed anyone- and to this day I feel that tracing a complex skeleton or a dynamic pose truly helped me along.

I also have no problem with people who trace just because, and make sure they say they're not the one who really drew it.
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HK-0391 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015   Digital Artist
Ftmry by Hoshi-0461
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Fullmetal0Thunder Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2014  Professional Filmographer
While there are people stealing my art in this same manner, I will admit that I did trace art before I joined deviantART, but I never uploaded it. I actually feel pretty bad now.
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kefek Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Tracing art and keeping it to yourself is fine. I think all artists, including myself, are guilty of tracing. But when everyones entire gallery consists of bases and traced art, it's just so annoying, no matter what excuse you have.
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ImmortalMeganekko Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014
That's why I prefer to upload art I requested/commissioned from others. I never was good at drawing
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Karieann Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Student General Artist
I support tracing only if the tracer is tracing a picture taken by the tracer. Many real artists actually trace things.

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Koiko-Destol Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
m.youtube.com/watch?v=4mcmAMc2…
please look at these comments omgfg
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BlossutchQueen Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
When I was like, 8 or 9 i'd trace from computer screen to paper, never uploaded it, but, i gave em' credit on the back of the paper even though nobody would see it. 
Llama Emoji-09 (Drinking Tea) [V1] 
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Dusk-deerfluff Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
lol
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Zarixie Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
I feel so bad now. :/  I traced a picture once (I put the paper over the screen and drew after, and then colour-traced by eye) to practise painting. And then I uploaded it on da (At least I said I didn't make the lineart) because I didn't know it was wrong, scince I have never been in an art community before. Of course I deleted it when I learnt how bad it was.
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NemoTheGoblin Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Student General Artist
Not to mention traces look like crap.
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ToddNTheShiningSword Featured By Owner May 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Copying is only a crime when you post it. Tracing isn't theft if you don't post it.
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bbraeplz Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2015
Bullshit, my sketchbook was stolen by some kid and they traced one of my pictures.
I asked them were they got it. You know what they said?

"I got it from a commercial." They also said they wanted to name the character Angel.


Since when the hell does Neopets make commercials now?


They may be too young to go to jail, but it's still theft.
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